The Social-Engineer Podcast

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I are joined by Haseeb Awan. Haseeb is the CEO & Founder of Efani Secure Mobile, a company that works with ultra-high-net-worth individuals on their Mobile Security. Previously, he co-founded one of the largest Bitcoin ATM networks. He has been featured on NYT, TechCrunch, Wall Street Journal, Hulu, and several international media outlets.  [Feb 20, 2023]

 

00:00 - Intro

00:50 - Intro Links:

-          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

-          Tuxcare – tuxcare.com

-          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

-          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

-          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

-          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

-          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

-          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                               

03:55 - Haseeb Awan Intro

05:23 - What led you from Bitcoin to Sim Swapping?

10:10 - More Than Financial Loss

12:27 - Protecting Something Out of Your Control

14:06 - It's About More than the Price

16:52 - Security vs Convenience

20:00 - Explaining Without Scaring

24:26 - The Importance of Stories

26:15 - Consider It Insurance

28:38 - Will the TelCos Follow Suit?

31:19 - Tips for a More Secure Company

32:33 - Book Recommendations:

-          Zero to One – Peter Thiel

34:08 - Find Haseeb Awan Online

-          Twitter: https://twitter.com/haseeb

-          Twitter: https://twitter.com/efani

-          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/efani/

-          YouTube: https://youtube.com/@efani

34:52 - Wrap Up & Outro

-          www.social-engineer.com

-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org


Today we are joined by Dr. Cortney S. Warren, a board-certified clinical psychologist and former tenured associate professor of psychology at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas.

Dr. Warren is an expert on addictions, self-deception, eating pathology, and the practice of psychotherapy from a cross-cultural perspective. With almost 50 peer reviewed journal articles, 7 book chapters, two books, and 75 professional presentations, Dr. Warren’s work appears in some of the field's top journals. She has won some of the most prestigious awards in her field.

In addition to publishing in scientific, peer-reviewed journals, Dr. Warren is passionate about bringing psychological research to the general public. She works as a research consultant, keynote speaker, and writes a blog for Psychology Today. This month, she published a self-help book on love addiction and breakups called Letting Go of Your Ex. [Feb 13, 2023]

00:00 – Intro

00:22 – Intro Links

04:01 - Dr. Cortney Warren Intro

05:51 - A Personal and Professional Merging of Experiences

07:41 - Freedom in the Hard Truth

09:43 - The Path from Honest Liars

11:54 - Core Struggle: Addictive Behaviors

15:09 - The War Inside Your Head

16:48 - Hold Up a Mirror

18:18 - The Role of Self Deception (In Love)

22:08 - Addicted to Love

24:40 - When the Honeymoon is Over

28:37 - Guided by Values

31:42 - The Importance of Alignment

34:10 - Leading By Example

36:06 - A Call for Compassion

38:49 - Find Dr. Cortney Warren online

40:09 - Who do you consider your greatest mentors?

41:10 - My Grandmother: A Lesson in Resilience

44:09 - Book Recommendations

46:08 - Guest Wrap Up                                

46:48 – Outro


Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.

 

In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing: Information Elicitation. We will discuss what it is, why it’s so important to use ‘science-based interviewing’, and why approaches that encourage cooperation are better than manipulation of information retrieval. [Feb 6, 2023]

 

00:00 – Intro

00:20 – Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

00:54 – Intro Links

03:58 – The Topic of the Day: Information Elicitation                                                       

05:41 – How does your scientific research affect practitioners?                                                  

06:47 – Start with the Brain                                                        

07:32 – Elicitation: A Scientific Definition                                                              

09:36 – Weaponizing Elicitation                                                 

11:17 – It's Easier Than You Think                                                            

13:40 – The Perils of Poker Face                                               

16:41 – Being on the Defensive                                                

19:17 – Me, You, and Us                                                              

21:28 – The Verbal Approaches                                                

25:16 – Collaboration is Key!                                                      

30:37 – An Effective Approach: Subliminal Priming                                                           

32:00 – "They'll Become What They're Called"                                                   

33:33 – This Applies to Life                                                          

35:07 – Make it Conversational                                                 

36:56 – The Scharff Technique                                                  

40:48 – Forensic vs Clinical                                                          

43:23 – Last Week on "24"                                                          

45:01 – Tips for the Boss: Shame Doesn't Work                                                  

49:41 – This is the Hardest Part                                                 

51:46 – Wrap Up & Outro

 

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References:

Kong, Y., & Schoenebeck, G. (2019). An information theoretic framework for designing information elicitation mechanisms that reward truth-telling. ACM Transactions on Economics and Computation (TEAC), 7(1), 1-33.

 

Lakin, J. L., Jefferis, V. E., Cheng, C. M., & Chartrand, T. L. (2003). The chameleon effect as social glue: Evidence for the evolutionary significance of nonconscious mimicry. Journal of nonverbal behavior, 27(3), 145-162.

 

Tschacher, W., Rees, G. M., & Ramseyer, F. (2014). Nonverbal synchrony and affect in dyadic interactions. Frontiers in psychology, 5, 1323.

 

Brandon, S. E., Wells, S., & Seale, C. (2018). Science‐based interviewing:

Information elicitation. Journal of Investigative Psychology and Offender Profiling, 15(2), 133-148.

 

Kong, Y., Schoenebeck, G., Tao, B., & Yu, F. Y. (2020, April). Information elicitation mechanisms for statistical estimation. In Proceedings of the AAAI Conference on Artificial Intelligence (Vol. 34, No. 02, pp. 2095-2102).

 

Shaw, D. J., Vrij, A., Leal, S., Mann, S., Hillman, J., Granhag, P. A., & Fisher, R. P. (2015). Mimicry and investigative interviewing: Using deliberate mimicry to elicit information and cues to deceit. Journal of Investigative Psychology and

Offender Profiling, 12(3), 217-230.

 

Baddeley, M. C., Curtis, A., & Wood, R. (2004). An introduction to prior information derived from probabilistic judgements: elicitation of knowledge, cognitive bias and herding. Geological Society, London, Special Publications, 239(1), 15-27.

 

Deeb, H., Vrij, A., Leal, S., & Burkhardt, J. (2021). The effects of sketching while narrating on information elicitation and deception detection in multiple interviews. Acta Psychologica, 213, 103236.

 

Boone, R. T., & Buck, R. (2003). Emotional expressivity and trustworthiness: The role of nonverbal behavior in the evolution of cooperation. Journal of Nonverbal Behavior, 27(3), 163-182.

 

Culpepper, P. D. (2018). Creating cooperation. In Creating Cooperation. Cornell University Press.

 

Brimbal, L., Dianiska, R. E., Swanner, J. K., & Meissner, C. A. (2019). Enhancing cooperation and disclosure by manipulating affiliation and developing rapport in investigative interviews. Psychology, Public Policy, and Law, 25(2), 107.

 

Granhag, P. A., Oleszkiewicz, S., Strömwall, L. A., & Kleinman, S. M. (2015).

Eliciting intelligence with the Scharff technique: Interviewing more and less cooperative and capable sources. Psychology, Public Policy, and Law, 21(1), 100.

 

Vallano, J. P., & Schreiber Compo, N. (2015). Rapport-building with cooperative witnesses and criminal suspects: A theoretical and empirical review. Psychology, Public Policy, and Law, 21(1), 85.

 

Rilling, J. K., Gutman, D. A., Zeh, T. R., Pagnoni, G., Berns, G. S., & Kilts, C. D. (2002). A neural basis for social cooperation. Neuron, 35(2), 395-405.

 

Fehr, E., & Rockenbach, B. (2004). Human altruism: economic, neural, and evolutionary perspectives. Current opinion in neurobiology, 14(6), 784-790.

 

Krill, A. L., & Platek, S. M. (2012). Working together may be better: Activation of reward centers during a cooperative maze task. PloS one, 7(2), e30613.


Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [Jan 30, 2023]

 

00:00 – Intro

00:28 – Patrick Laverty Intro

00:58 – Intro Links

05:38 – "You never know"                                                          

06:51 – Todays Topic: The Role of Empathy in SE                                                               

07:02 – Empathy: A Definition                                                   

11:09 – 3 Kinds of Empathy                                                        

11:23 – Cognitive Empathy                                                         

12:21 – Emotional Empathy                                                        

13:00 – Empathic Concern                                                          

15:52 – The Role of Emotional Distance                                                 

16:57 – Learning Empathy                                                           

17:49 – What the Studies Show                                                

19:56 – Keeping an Open Mind                                                 

21:35 – Letting Your Life Experiences Teach You                                                

23:52 – The Social Media Bubble                                                              

25:55 – Expand And Listen                                                          

30:13 – Applying Empathy to Social Engineering                                                

31:25 – Being Adversarial                                                            

32:45 – Don't Be the Bad Guy                                                    

38:33 – The Importance of "Why"                                                            

42:51 – Using Empathy to Make the Best Choice                                               

48:07 – Using Empathy to Make the Hard Choice                                                              

49:55 – Practice Makes (Not Quite) Perfect                                                         

51:17 – Coming Up Next Month                                                               

52:08 – Wrap Up & Outro

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Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I will have a special discussion of the 2023 security landscape. [Jan 27, 2023]

 

00:00 – Intro

00:27 – Intro Links:

04:25 – Don't Forget Ryan                                                           

05:11 – What Are We Talking About: 2023 Edition                                                            

05:39 – 2022 Was Rough!                                                            

07:09 – Getting Everyone Else Up To Speed                                                         

09:24 – Hackers for Hire?                                                             

12:58 – Economic Crisis = Rise in Cybercrime                                                      

15:10 – Emotional Victimizing                                                    

18:08 – Losing the Teachable Moment                                                  

20:42 – Ransomware as a Growth Industry                                                          

24:20 – MFA for All!                                                       

27:15 – There is Hope                                                   

28:40 – Make It Personal                                                             

30:47 – A Tool is Just a Tool                                                        

33:25 – Don't Recycle                                                    

34:53 – Make it Hard!                                                    

36:29 – Gotta Get it Tailored                                                      

37:47 – Trust the Process                                                            

39:40 – Wrap Up & Outro


Today we are joined by Robert Kerbeck. Robert is the founder of the Malibu Writers Circle, a lifetime member of the Actors Studio, and a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania. His true crime memoir about his secret career as a corporate spy, RUSE: Lying the American Dream from Hollywood to Wall Street, has received praise from Frank Abagnale and former CIA Agent Valerie Plame. Kerbeck’s writing has appeared in numerous publications including the Los Angeles Times, the San Francisco Chronicle, Los Angeles Magazine, and Lithub’s Crime Reads. [Jan 25, 2023] 

00:00 – Intro  

00:26 – Intro Links 

02:21 – Robert Kerbeck Intro  

03:28 – How do you "stumble" into becoming a corporate spy?  

06:51 – Going inside: This is Social Engineering  

08:29 – Very Dark Grey  

10:33 – We Need to Talk About Kevin  

11:25 – Making OJ look good  

15:25 – Doing what LinkedIn can't  

19:54 – Making the lie sound better than the truth  

21:13 – Setting boundaries  

22:21 – Hacking people is easy  

24:46 – Some need convincing  

26:08 – Ransomware  

28:38 – No spies here!  

30:03 – This isn't going away!  

31:08 – Knock, knock  

32:35 – Hacking the human  

34:59 – Find Robert Kerbeck online 

35:43 – Who do you consider your mentors? 

36:49 – Book Recommendations: 

38:00 – Guest Wrap Up  

38:26 – Outro 


Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.

 

In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing: Shame. We will talk about how shame helps us, hinders us, why some people can deal with it and why some can’t. We’ll also discuss various coping strategies and more.  [Jan 02, 2023]

 

00:00 – Intro

00:17 – Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

00:55 – Intro Links

03:38 – The topic of the day: Shame                                                  

05:44 – Is there a positive side to shame?                                                      

07:29 – Directed by beliefs                                                    

09:02 – Cultural differences                                                  

10:14 – Shame's functionality                                               

11:16 – Societal stigma                                            

12:35 – How shame can hinder                                            

16:36 – Literal shutdown                                                       

19:30 – Emotional Blunting                                                   

22:15 – Guilt vs Shame: Sense of Self                                                

24:14 – Those who can, cope!                                              

26:54 – When shame is a symptom                                                   

28:09 – Finding a support network                                                    

30:03 – The "core" of shame                                                 

33:45 – The road to Mindfulness                                                        

37:20 – Environmental Shame                                              

38:34 – Horrifically fascinating                                             

41:06 – You have to get out there!                                                     

43:00 – Tips for our younger listeners                                               

45:25 – Remember Pen Pals?                                                

46:44 – Wrap Up                                                       

47:39 – Outro

 

 

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References:

Burkitt, I. (2008). Social selves: Theories of self and society. Sage.

 

Elison, J., Pulos, S., & Lennon, R. (2006). Shame-focused coping: An empirical study of the compass of shame. Social Behavior and Personality: an international journal, 34(2), 161-168.

 

Garey, S. S. (1998). Long-term effects of sibling emotional and physical abuse on adult self-concept and the associated guilt and shame. United States International University.

 

Gilchrist, J. D., Solomon-Krakus, S., Pila, E., Crocker, P., & Sabiston, C. M. (2020). Associations between physical self-concept and anticipated guilt and shame: The moderating role of gender. Sex Roles, 83(11), 763-772.

 

Harper, J. M. (2011). Regulating and coping with shame. Re-constructing emotional spaces: From experience to regulation, 189-206.

 

Hawes, D. J., Helyer, R., Herlianto, E. C., & Willing, J. (2013). Borderline personality features and implicit shame-prone self-concept in middle childhood and early adolescence. Journal of Clinical Child & Adolescent Psychology, 42(3), 302-308.

 

Kinston, W. (1983). A theoretical context for shame. International Journal of Psycho-Analysis, 64, 213-226.

 

Krüger, S., & Rustad, G. C. (2019). Coping with shame in a media-saturated society: Norwegian web-series Skam as transitional object. Television & new media, 20(1), 72-95.

 

Nathanson, D. L. (1987). The many faces of shame. In Partially based on a symposium held in Los Angeles, 1984 for the 137th Annual Meeting of the American Psychiatric Association.. The Guilford Press.

 

Rüsch, N., Lieb, K., Göttler, I., Hermann, C., Schramm, E., Richter, H., ... & Bohus, M. (2007). Shame and implicit self-concept in women with borderline personality disorder. American journal of psychiatry, 164(3), 500-508.

 

Scheff, T. J. (2003). Shame in self and society. Symbolic interaction, 26(2), 239-262.

 

Tangney, J. P. (1996). Conceptual and methodological issues in the assessment of shame and guilt. Behaviour research and therapy, 34(9), 741-754.

 

Taylor, P. J., McDonald, J., Smith, M., Nicholson, H., & Forrester, R. (2019). Distinguishing people with current, past, and no history of non-suicidal self-injury: Shame, social comparison, and self-concept integration. Journal of Affective Disorders, 246, 182-188.

 

Taylor, T. F. (2015). The influence of shame on posttrauma disorders: have we failed to see the obvious?. European journal of psychotraumatology, 6(1), 28847.


Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [Dec 26, 2022] 

 

00:00 – Intro 

00:29 – Patrick Laverty Intro 

01:18 – Intro Links 

05:04 – Todays Topic: Dumpster Diving 

06:27 – Shelby Dacko Intro 

08:38 – Patrick’s Pizza Adventure 

14:34 – Who is Shelby? 

15:51 – 9 Times 

19:20 – The continuing importance of OSINT 

20:44 – What are some "typical" goals for a "break-in"? 

22:40 – Concerns with 3rd party security 

23:08 – Shelby's nighttime find 

26:37 – Shelby's Trash Talk 

31:02 – All the luck 

33:20 – A moment in time 

35:37 – Situational Awareness 

38:58 – The 4th Step 

41:02 – Diversity of thought 

42:06 – Cut me some SLACK 

44:39 – "It's more about the raccoons" 

46:50 – Wrap Up & Outro 

 

Find us online 

  • Chris Hadnagy 
  • Patrick Laverty 

Today our guest is Steve Orrin. Steve is a respected IT executive with over 30 years of experience in cybersecurity, solution architecture, virtualization security, and federal project management. Orrin earned a Bachelor's in Honors Research Biology from Kean University. He currently serves as a Federal Chief Technology Officer and Senior PE for Intel Corporation. He is also a key advisor and subject matter expert in the emerging technologies space, providing guidance to the Public Sector, Defense, and Intelligence communities. [Dec 19, 2022] 

 

00:00 – Intro 

00:55 – Intro Links: 

03:43 – Steve Orrin Intro 

04:26 – How did a biologist become a CTO at Intel? 

09:10 – The evolution of security attacks 

12:22 – Humans are humans 

13:18 – Higher-risk targets 

13:54 – If I knew then...LISTEN! 

15:09 – Speak the language 

16:27 – Making limoncello out of lemons 

17:36 – Check your ego 

19:04 – The prerequisites 

21:06 – A Self-fulfilling Prophecy of Awesome Things 

22:15 – Perfection is the Enemy of Good 

26:06 – Handling failure 

28:12 – Culturing opportunities 

30:37 – Ninja skills 

32:07 – Have you had mentors in your career? 

33:42 – Book Recommendations  

35:52 – Find Steve Orrin online 


Dorie Clark helps individuals and companies get their best ideas heard in a crowded, noisy world. She has been named one of the Top 50 business thinkers in the world by Thinkers50. She was honored as the #1 Communication Coach by the Marshall Goldsmith Leading Global Coaches Awards and one of the Top 5 Communication Professionals in the World by Global Gurus.  

 

She is the Wall Street Journal bestselling author of The Long Game, Entrepreneurial You, Reinventing You, and Stand Out, which was named the #1 Leadership Book of the Year by Inc. magazine. 

 

A former presidential campaign spokeswoman, Clark has been described by the New York Times as an “expert at self-reinvention and helping others make changes in their lives.” She is a frequent contributor to the Harvard Business Review, and consults and speaks for clients such as Google, Yale University, and the World Bank. 

 

She is a graduate of Harvard Divinity School, a producer of a multiple Grammy-winning jazz album, and a Broadway investor. [Dec 12, 2022]  

 

00:00 – Intro  

00:18 – Intro Links 

02:37 – Dorie Clark Intro 

04:01 – How did you decide to become a leadership expert? 

05:26 – Defeating the "gatekeepers" 

08:06 – The benefits of Social Proof 

12:34 – Has the "long game" changed in the last 10 years? 

15:36 – The rise of FOMO 

18:19 – Getting back to long-term thinking 

19:52 – You don't have to "Take the Leap!" 

25:32 – Be 2 years older with straight teeth 

27:42 – Confusing "busy" with "important" 

31:40 – Deciding what to be bad at 

36:16 – Who do you consider your mentor? 

40:28 – Find Dorie Clark online