The Social-Engineer Podcast

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.


In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are joined by Dr. David Matsumoto.  Dr. Matsumoto, Director of Humintell, is a world-renowned expert in the fields of emotion, nonverbal behavior, deception, and culture. He received his bachelor’s degree from the University of Michigan in 1981, double majoring in psychology and Japanese and receiving High Honors in both. He obtained his Masters (1983) and Doctoral (1986) degrees in Psychology from the University of California at Berkeley. He has been a Professor of Psychology at San Francisco State University (SFSU) since 1989, and is the Founder and Director of SFSU’s Culture and Emotion Research Laboratory.


Dr. Matsumoto is an expert in threat assessment and management, especially in relation to behavioral indicators of operational bad actors. He has conducted the only study to date of the cognitions, emotions, and behaviors of bad actors when they are actively engaged in an act of violence, and he has briefed the results of this work to several government agencies. He has also conducted decades of research on behavioral indicators related to deception about the intent to commit acts of malfeasance in the future, and the behavioral indicators that emerged from this work has been briefed to countless military, intelligence, and law enforcement agencies and operators. [April 1, 2024]


00:00 - Intro

00:17 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

01:16 - Intro Links

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-          Managed Voice Phishing -

-          Managed Email Phishing -

-          Adversarial Simulations -

-          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK -

-          CLUTCH -

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03:29 - Dr. David Matsumoto Intro

05:02 - The Topic of the Day: Emotion & Nonverbal Communication

05:29 - The Origins of Human Emotion

09:46 - Olympic-Level Study

17:00 - Strike a Pose

19:30 - Behavioral Indicators

25:01 - Emotional Buffer

25:42 - Data Sourcing

31:26 - In Context

32:51 - The Anonymous Factor

35:37 - The Human Factor

37:15 - New Book

37:58 - A Writers Obligation

41:46 - On A Mission

45:11 - Find Dr. Matsumoto Online

-          Website:

-          X/Twitter: @davidmatsumoto

-          LinkedIn: in/davidmatsumoto

-          YouTube: @Humintell

46:00 - Wrap Up

46:29 - Next Month: Overworking

46:59 - Outro                                                                    




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