This month, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Paul Asadoorian.  Paul is the founder of Security Weekly, a security podcast network. Paul spends time “in the trenches” coding in Python, testing security products and evaluating and implementing open-source software. Paul's career began by implementing security programs for a lottery company and then a large university. As Product Evangelist for Tenable Network Security, Paul also built a library of materials on the topic of vulnerability management. When not hacking IoT devices, web applications or Linux, Paul can be found researching his next set of headphones, devices for smoking meat, and e-bikes. November 15, 2021. 

00:00 – Intro 

• Social-Engineer.com
• Managed Voice Phishing 
• Managed Email Phishing 
• Adversarial Simulations  
• Social-Engineer channel on SLACK 
• CLUTCH 
• innocentlivesfoundation.org 
• Human Behavior Conference 

03:34 – Paul Asadoorian Intro 

05:08 – How did you get started in infosec? 

13:19 – When did you decide you were going to start a podcast? 

24:26 – What have you learned from the guests you’ve had on your podcasts over all of these years? 

27:00 – What is your perspective on the shifting of hacking culture in the community? 

34:53 – What are the best qualities someone could have to be attractive to a potential employer in this industry? 

37:14 – How do we get the younger generation to have the qualities we are not seeing? 

41:38 – Who is your greatest mentor? 

• Laurie Baker 
• Stephen Northcutt @ SANS 
• Ed Skoudis @ SANS 

51:00 – Guest Wrap Up 

• https://securityweekly.com   
• www.twitter.com/securityweekly 

53:31 – Outro 

• innocentlivesfoundation.org

This month, Chris Hadnagy is joined by Marilise de Villiers.  Marilise is a mindset and performance coach, a TEDX speaker, and a cybersecurity awareness, culture, and talent expert. While at one time she was a female executive in a Big Four consulting firm she is now the founder and CEO of her own company, ROAR! Coaching and Consulting, which helps people find their purpose, their power, and gives people the courage to speak their truth.  November 8, 2021 

00:00 – Intro 

• Social-Engineer.com
• Managed Voice Phishing

• Managed Email Phishing
• Adversarial Simulations
• Social-Engineer channel on SLACK
• CLUTCH
• innocentlivesfoundation.org

• Human Behavior Conference

04:35 – What made you leave an amazing corporate company and forge a path for yourself? 

08:09 – How did you escape the bad things in your life and turn into a person who helps other people find their strength? 

10:47 – How did you get out of the cycle of abuse? 

14:42 – Figuring out the role you play and taking back the power 

17:06 – Finding a hobby 

21:00 – How did you come upon this trifecta of things to better yourself? 

25:10 –What have you found is the overwhelmingly common problem that people have when you first start working with them on bettering themselves? 

27:56 – Changing your “self” view 

30:32 – What would be a suggestion to give someone to “start today”? 

34:35 – How do you suggest people find balance when most of us have spent most of our lives being imbalanced? 

37:20 – How has this life change for you affected your kids? 

38:55 – Who do you consider your greatest mentors? 

• Family: Mom, dad, grandmother, grandfather 

• Brendon Burchard 
• Tony Robbins 
• Dean Graziosi 
• Maya Camerota 

41:05 – What books would you recommend to our listeners? 

• Marilise’s Book – Roar!: How To Tame The Bully Inside and Out
• Radical Compassion – Tara Brach
• Think And Grow Rich – Napoleon Hill
• How To Break The Habit Of Being Yourself – Joe Dispenza
• Unbound – Kasia Urbaniak

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43:15 – How to find Marilise  

https://www.marilise-de-villiers.com 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/marilise-de-villiers-9184521a 

https://www.marilise-de-villiers.com/podcasts/roar-marilise-de-villiers 

44:40 – Outro  

• Social-Engineer.org
• Social-Engineer.com
• The Innocent Lives Foundation