The Social-Engineer Podcast

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [Oct 24th, 2022] 


00:00 – Intro 

00:17 – Patrick Laverty Intro 

00:58 – Intro Links 

03:28 – This month’s dumpster dive: Great Stories 

04:01 – Oceans 11 1/2: Ryan Didn't Die 

05:14 – Let the testing begin! 

06:36 – OSINT & Building a Pretext 

10:06 – Never lose focus of your SCOPE 

11:52 – Stay with the Pretext! 

14:53 – Don't Drink & Shred 

18:36 – Always working 

19:55 – The Story Continues... 

29:14 – You can't prepare for Bad Luck 

35:04 – Being an advocate, not an adversary 

36:46 – Not quite a clean getaway 

38:40 – The value of stories 

40:34 – Coming up next month 

41:43 – Wrap Up & Outro 



Find us online 

  • Chris Hadnagy 
  • Patrick Laverty 


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Today our guest joining us is Kevin Gowen. Kevin serves as Chief Information Security Officer for Synovus and is responsible for information and cyber security, physical security, business continuity, fraud, and financial crimes. He was named Chief Information Security Officer in 2015. Gowen earned Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees in Mechanical Engineering from the Georgia Institute of Technology. He was a recipient of the James H. Blanchard Leadership award and was named Tech Exec Networks’ Information Security Executive of the Year in May 2022. Gowen is an alumnus of Leadership Columbus and serves as a board member of the National Technology Security Coalition along with serving on multiple advisory boards and in industry group leadership roles. [Oct 17th, 2022] 

00:00 – Intro 

00:56 – Intro Links: 

03:55 – Kevin Gowen Intro 

05:55 – What made you want to go into InfoSec? 

06:56 – Managing Risk with teams of 10,000+ 

08:24 – How do you stay in front of the next attack? 

10:15 – Top 3 Talking Points to assure the stakeholders 

11:27 – How do you educate the customer? 

13:04 – The "push" during Cybersecurity Awareness Month 

14:23 – That's not Amazon! 

15:55 – How are you attracting and retaining talent during this employee drought? 

20:23 – Poaching vs Developing 

22:46 – Communicating the need for diversity down the ladder 

24:25 – Cross-industry and Inter-department hiring 

26:24 – If I knew then... 

28:41 – Defining our "true" critical assets 

30:03 – Be willing to be evaluated 

32:32 – Who helped get you to where you are today? 

34:47 – Find Kevin Gowen online 

39:28 – Wrap Up  

40:13 – Outro 

Today we are joined by David Hill. David is currently a licensed real estate broker in Massachusetts and is also a Success Certified Business Coach and Cardone University Sales Trainer. Davis has been a top producing real estate agent for over 18 years as well as a phone sales trainer with over 36 years’ sales experience in multiple industries. David is also the host of the Path to Mastery podcast and the author of two books, “The Sales Playbook” and “Getting your Quality of Life back”. David also enjoys traveling, spending time with his 3 daughters and his wife, and enjoys exercise as a triathlete who has competed in an Ironman Race. [Oct 10th, 2022] 


00:00 – Intro  

00:20 – Intro Links 

01:41 – David Hill Intro 

02:41 – How did you get started in sales? 

03:51 – The way sales have changed over the decades  

07:15 – Improving your quality of life 

09:45 – Setting Standards 

11:48 – Getting over the fear of setting boundaries 

16:38 – The Power of Resilience 

19:37 – Developing your own Grit 

23:14 – Steps to finding your passion 

28:48 – Strategic Thought Time 

31:28 Who are your greatest mentors? 

33:42 – Book Recommendations: 

36:36 – Find David Hill online 

37:26 – Guest Wrap Up 

37:54 – Outro 

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.  


This is Episode 181 and hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. 


Joining Chris is co-host Dr. Abbie Maroño. Abbie is Director of education at Social-Engineer, LLC, and a perception management coach. She has a PhD in Behaviour analysis and specializes in nonverbal communication, trust, and cooperation. 


Today’s conversation will be on the topic of Can You Fake It Till You Make It. [Oct 03, 2022] 


00:00 – Intro 

00:21 – Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro 

01:16 – Intro Links 

03:45 – The topic of the day: Can you fake it till you make it? 

05:15 – The Power of the Mind 

06:53 – The Placebo Milkshake 

12:07 – The difference with disorders 

14:09 – “I'm gonna be happy!” 

15:55 – Facial Feedback Hypothesis 

21:00 – The power of expression 

22:18 – Botox for happiness? 

30:27 – Power Posing 

37:39 – V is for Victory! 

39:07 – The basis of non-verbals 

41:34 – Self Talk 

44:34 – All or Nothing 

47:37 – Public Speaking or Firing Squad? 

49:34 – Book Recommendations 

50:26 – Wrap Up  

50:58 – Find us online 

51:48 – Outro 


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