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Mon, 30 January 2023

Ep. 196 - SE Etc Series - The Role Of Empathy In Social Engineering with Patrick and Chris

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [Jan 30, 2023]

00:00 – Intro

00:28 – Patrick Laverty Intro

00:58 – Intro Links

05:38 – "You never know"

06:51 – Todays Topic: The Role of Empathy in SE

07:02 – Empathy: A Definition

11:09 – 3 Kinds of Empathy

11:23 – Cognitive Empathy

12:21 – Emotional Empathy

13:00 – Empathic Concern

15:52 – The Role of Emotional Distance

16:57 – Learning Empathy

17:49 – What the Studies Show

19:56 – Keeping an Open Mind

21:35 – Letting Your Life Experiences Teach You

23:52 – The Social Media Bubble

25:55 – Expand And Listen

30:13 – Applying Empathy to Social Engineering

31:25 – Being Adversarial

32:45 – Don't Be the Bad Guy

38:33 – The Importance of "Why"

42:51 – Using Empathy to Make the Best Choice

48:07 – Using Empathy to Make the Hard Choice

49:55 – Practice Makes (Not Quite) Perfect

51:17 – Coming Up Next Month

52:08 – Wrap Up & Outro

Find us online

Chris Hadnagy
- Twitter: @humanhacker
- LinkedIn: com/in/christopherhadnagy
Patrick Laverty
- Twitter: @plaverty9
- LinkedIn: com/in/plaverty9

Direct download: Ep._196_-_SE_Etc_Series_-_The_Role_Of_Empathy_In_Social_Engineering_with_Patrick_and_Chris.mp3
Category:SE Etc. -- posted at: 2:00am EST

Fri, 27 January 2023

Ep. 195 - Security Awareness Series - Social Engineering Forecast for 2023

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I will have a special discussion of the 2023 security landscape. [Jan 27, 2023]

00:00 – Intro

00:27 – Intro Links:

Social-Engineer.com- http://www.social-engineer.com/
Managed Voice Phishing- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/
Managed Email Phishing- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/
Adversarial Simulations- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/
Social-Engineer channel on SLACK- https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
CLUTCH- http://www.pro-rock.com/
innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

04:25 – Don't Forget Ryan

05:11 – What Are We Talking About: 2023 Edition

05:39 – 2022 Was Rough!

07:09 – Getting Everyone Else Up To Speed

09:24 – Hackers for Hire?

12:58 – Economic Crisis = Rise in Cybercrime

15:10 – Emotional Victimizing

18:08 – Losing the Teachable Moment

20:42 – Ransomware as a Growth Industry

24:20 – MFA for All!

27:15 – There is Hope

28:40 – Make It Personal

30:47 – A Tool is Just a Tool

33:25 – Don't Recycle

34:53 – Make it Hard!

36:29 – Gotta Get it Tailored

37:47 – Trust the Process

39:40 – Wrap Up & Outro

Direct download: Ep._195_-_Security_Awareness_Series_-_Social_Engineering_Forecast_for_2023.mp3
Category:Security Awareness -- posted at: 2:00am EST

Wed, 25 January 2023

Ep. 194 - Human Element Series - RUSE: Corporate Spies as a Service with Robert Kerbeck

Today we are joined by Robert Kerbeck. Robert is the founder of the Malibu Writers Circle, a lifetime member of the Actors Studio, and a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania. His true crime memoir about his secret career as a corporate spy, RUSE: Lying the American Dream from Hollywood to Wall Street, has received praise from Frank Abagnale and former CIA Agent Valerie Plame. Kerbeck’s writing has appeared in numerous publications including the Los Angeles Times, the San Francisco Chronicle, Los Angeles Magazine, and Lithub’s Crime Reads. [Jan 25, 2023]

00:00 – Intro

00:26 – Intro Links

Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

02:21 – Robert Kerbeck Intro

03:28 – How do you "stumble" into becoming a corporate spy?

06:51 – Going inside: This is Social Engineering

08:29 – Very Dark Grey

10:33 – We Need to Talk About Kevin

11:25 – Making OJ look good

15:25 – Doing what LinkedIn can't

19:54 – Making the lie sound better than the truth

21:13 – Setting boundaries

22:21 – Hacking people is easy

24:46 – Some need convincing

26:08 – Ransomware

28:38 – No spies here!

30:03 – This isn't going away!

31:08 – Knock, knock

32:35 – Hacking the human

34:59 – Find Robert Kerbeck online

Website: www.robertkerbeck.com

35:43 – Who do you consider your mentors?

Professor from Freshman Year
Frank Abagnale

36:49 – Book Recommendations:

Fair Game – Valerie Plame
Catch Me If You Can – Frank Abagnale

RUSE – Robert Kerbeck

38:00 – Guest Wrap Up

38:26 – Outro

Direct download: Ep._194_-_Human_Element_Series_-_RUSE_Corporate_Spies_As_A_Service_with_Robert_Kerbeck.mp3
Category:Human Element Series -- posted at: 3:49pm EST

Mon, 16 January 2023

Ep. 193 - The Doctor Is In Series - Shame, The Good The Bad And The Coping

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.

In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing: Shame. We will talk about how shame helps us, hinders us, why some people can deal with it and why some can’t. We’ll also discuss various coping strategies and more. [Jan 02, 2023]

00:00 – Intro

00:17 – Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

00:55 – Intro Links

03:38 – The topic of the day: Shame

05:44 – Is there a positive side to shame?

07:29 – Directed by beliefs

09:02 – Cultural differences

10:14 – Shame's functionality

11:16 – Societal stigma

12:35 – How shame can hinder

16:36 – Literal shutdown

19:30 – Emotional Blunting

22:15 – Guilt vs Shame: Sense of Self

24:14 – Those who can, cope!

26:54 – When shame is a symptom

28:09 – Finding a support network

30:03 – The "core" of shame

33:45 – The road to Mindfulness

37:20 – Environmental Shame

38:34 – Horrifically fascinating

41:06 – You have to get out there!

43:00 – Tips for our younger listeners

45:25 – Remember Pen Pals?

46:44 – Wrap Up

47:39 – Outro

Find us online:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbiejmarono
LinkedIn: com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a
Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker
LinkedIn: com/in/christopherhadnagy

References:

Burkitt, I. (2008). Social selves: Theories of self and society. Sage.

Elison, J., Pulos, S., & Lennon, R. (2006). Shame-focused coping: An empirical study of the compass of shame. Social Behavior and Personality: an international journal, 34(2), 161-168.

Garey, S. S. (1998). Long-term effects of sibling emotional and physical abuse on adult self-concept and the associated guilt and shame. United States International University.

Gilchrist, J. D., Solomon-Krakus, S., Pila, E., Crocker, P., & Sabiston, C. M. (2020). Associations between physical self-concept and anticipated guilt and shame: The moderating role of gender. Sex Roles, 83(11), 763-772.

Harper, J. M. (2011). Regulating and coping with shame. Re-constructing emotional spaces: From experience to regulation, 189-206.

Hawes, D. J., Helyer, R., Herlianto, E. C., & Willing, J. (2013). Borderline personality features and implicit shame-prone self-concept in middle childhood and early adolescence. Journal of Clinical Child & Adolescent Psychology, 42(3), 302-308.

Kinston, W. (1983). A theoretical context for shame. International Journal of Psycho-Analysis, 64, 213-226.

Krüger, S., & Rustad, G. C. (2019). Coping with shame in a media-saturated society: Norwegian web-series Skam as transitional object. Television & new media, 20(1), 72-95.

Nathanson, D. L. (1987). The many faces of shame. In Partially based on a symposium held in Los Angeles, 1984 for the 137th Annual Meeting of the American Psychiatric Association.. The Guilford Press.

Rüsch, N., Lieb, K., Göttler, I., Hermann, C., Schramm, E., Richter, H., ... & Bohus, M. (2007). Shame and implicit self-concept in women with borderline personality disorder. American journal of psychiatry, 164(3), 500-508.

Scheff, T. J. (2003). Shame in self and society. Symbolic interaction, 26(2), 239-262.

Tangney, J. P. (1996). Conceptual and methodological issues in the assessment of shame and guilt. Behaviour research and therapy, 34(9), 741-754.

Taylor, P. J., McDonald, J., Smith, M., Nicholson, H., & Forrester, R. (2019). Distinguishing people with current, past, and no history of non-suicidal self-injury: Shame, social comparison, and self-concept integration. Journal of Affective Disorders, 246, 182-188.

Taylor, T. F. (2015). The influence of shame on posttrauma disorders: have we failed to see the obvious?. European journal of psychotraumatology, 6(1), 28847.

Direct download: Ep._193_-_The_Doctor_Is_In_Series_-_Shame_The_Good_The_Bad_And_The_Coping.mp3
Category:The Doctor Is In Series -- posted at: 12:01am EST