REPLAY (Original Air Date May 27, 2024)

*Please note that this episode contains discussions regarding abuse that some may find disturbing.

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Join Chris as he discusses topics and news pertaining to the world of Social Engineering.

Today, Chris is joined by Nadja El Fertasi. Nadja is a leading figure in fostering emotional resilience within the digital age. Her comprehensive expertise spans crisis management, strategic stakeholder communication, and emotional intelligence, creating a unified approach to enhance the human side of digital advancements.

Having spent nearly two decades at NATO, including a significant role in the NATO Communications and Information Agency focusing on Digital Transformation & Cybersecurity, Nadja has been a pivotal figure in strategic engagement and communications. This role highlighted her commitment to navigating and leading through the complexities of cybersecurity and digital transformation. With over 15 years dedicated to cybersecurity at NATO, Nadja has emerged as a respected expert in her field. Her contribution to the cybersecurity community was acknowledged in "Hacking Gender Barriers: Europe’s Top Cyberwomen," by the Women4Cyber foundation, which recognized her as one of Europe's influential figures in cybersecurity.

Today, Nadja is the voice behind the EQ Elevator Podcast, where she assists businesses in cultivating leadership that's resilient and equipped for the digital age's challenges. Her work is dedicated to shaping a safer, more emotionally intelligent digital landscape, where individuals and organizations can thrive amidst technological disruptions. [May 27, 2024]

00:00 - Intro

00:19 - 2024 State of Vishing Report

01:01 - Intro Links

-          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

-          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

-          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

-          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

-          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

-          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

-          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                

03:11 - Nadja El Fertasi Intro

05:02 - The Importance of Sharing

07:14 - Romance Scam: Nadja's Story

13:51 - The Other Side

15:59 - The Red Flags

19:13 - A Gift and a Curse

23:22 - Taking Responsibility

25:24 - Love, Not Romance

27:05 - Navigating the Apps

32:28 - Reality Check

37:27 - Being Human

39:39 - Learning From "No"

41:28 - Where to Report

42:25 - Wrap Up

43:58 - Find Nadja El Fertasi Online

-          LinkedIn: in/nadja-elfertasi

-          Instagram: @nadjafertasi

45:17 - Outro

-          www.social-engineer.com

-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online

-          Chris Hadnagy

-          Twitter: @humanhacker

-          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Roy Luongo. Roy is the Chief Information Security Officer for the United States Secret Service. He leads a team in the defense and information assurance of all USSS information systems and solutions. Prior to his current role he was the Director, Joint Mission Operations Center for Cyber Command, providing oversight of mission critical Cyber Operations infrastructures. He has also served as Chief, NSA Red Team and Technical Director for Interactive Operations for the NSA. Roy is a retired Army soldier with 20 years’ service within the Intelligence and Cyber career fields. [March 17, 2025]

00:00 - Intro

00:17 - Intro Links:

-          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

-          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

-          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

-          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

-          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

-          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

-          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                               

01:55 - Roy Luongo Intro

02:44 - The Path to CISO of the Secret Service

04:58 - Cybersecurity in Early Education

07:50 - The Entry Level Catch-22

12:24 - Quantifying Risk

14:27 - The Best Way Forward

16:51 - The Effects and Future of AI

20:06 - Understanding Your Needs

22:11 - Advise to Young Roy

24:56 - The Cost of Training

29:01 - Mentors

-          Ed Skoudis

-          Brigadier General Brian D. Vile

-          Shawn Turskey

29:55 - Lollipop Moments

-          TEDxToronto - Drew Dudley "Leading with Lollipops"

31:33 - Book Recommendations

-          Cybersecurity Canon - Rick Howard

-          Kingpin - Kevin Poulsen

-          Turn the Ship Around! - L. David Marquet

33:49 - Wrap Up & Outro

-          www.social-engineer.com

-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Today we are joined by Dr. Lydia Kostopoulos. Dr. Kostopoulos is a globally recognized strategist that brings clarity and context as to what is on the horizon. Her unique expertise at the intersection of emerging technology, security and macro-trends has been sought by the United Nations, U.S. Special Operations, the European Commission, NATO, multi-nationals, tech companies, design agencies, academia, such as MIT and Oxford Saïd Business School, and foreign governments. She helps her clients understand new technologies, emerging value chains, and contextualizes the convergences of our time. She founded the boutique consultancy Abundance Studio and has experience working in the US, Europe, Middle East and East Asia. [March 10, 2025]

00:00 - Intro

00:19 - Intro Links

-          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

-          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

-          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

-          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

-          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

-          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

-          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                               

02:10 - Dr. Lydia Kostopoulos Intro

03:30 - From Counter Terrorism to Conflict Landscapes

05:35 - The Imagination Dilemma

09:13 - Technological Tit for Tat

11:38 - Four Facets of Imagination

12:18 - Facet 1) Identity

13:36 - Facet 2) Convergence

15:38 - Facet 3) Humanity

16:48 - Facet 4) Dreams

18:18 - Turning Crisis Into Strategy

22:39 - Being Human

26:04 - Future-Proofing Organizations

29:51 - Real Value Proposition

31:26 - Webinar Series

-          Website: imaginationdilemma.com

-          YouTube: @ImaginationDilemma

32:12 - Find Dr. Lydia Kostopoulos online

-          Website: abundance.studio

-          LinkedIn: in/lydiak

-          Instagram: @HiLydiak

32:46 - Book Recommendations

-          The 100-Year Life - Andrew Scott & Lynda Gratton

-          Imagination Dilemma - Dr. Lydia Kostopoulos

37:02 - Mentors

-          Parents

-          Women Suffragists

38:15 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro

-          www.social-engineer.com

-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.

In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing the Bystander Effect. They will talk about the many different ways it presents itself as well as how to avoid it and what you can do if you find yourself victim of it. [March 3, 2025]

00:00 - Intro

00:14 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

00:45 - Intro Links

-          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

-          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

-          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

-          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

-          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

-          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

-          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                

03:06 - The Topic of the Day: The Bystander Effect

03:16 - Defining the Bystander Effect

05:14 - The Smoke Filled Room

09:03 - The Advantage of CCTV

11:13 - The Ambiguity Factor

12:53 - Gender Dynamics

15:20 - Self-Construal

16:43 - Reverse the Roles

21:21 - Bystanding Online

22:59 - It's Easier to be Negative

25:34 - Fear Factor

27:53 - Assigning Responsibility

30:34 - Education is Key

31:19 - Just Ask!

32:40 - Wrap Up

32:49 - Next Month: Why Do We Cry?

33:12 - Outro    

-          www.social-engineer.com

-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Find us online:

-          Twitter: @DrAbbieofficial

-          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd

-          Instagram: @DoctorAbbieofficial

-          Twitter: @humanhacker

-          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

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