Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Rosa Rowles. Together, they explore the nuances of social engineering, focusing on the critical role of pretexting and impersonation in security assessments. Their conversation underscores the significance of preparation and adaptability, highlighting how embodying different personas can enhance the effectiveness of security operations. [Jan 19, 2026]

 

00:00 - Intro

00:27 - Rosa Rowles Intro

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00:55 - Intro Links:

-          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

-          Offensive Security Vishing Services - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/vishing/

-          Offensive Security SMiShing Services - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/smishing/

-          Offensive Security Phishing Services - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/smishing/

-          Call Back Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/call-back-phishing/

-          Adversarial Simulation Services - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/adversarial-simulation/

-          Social Engineering Risk Assessments - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/social-engineering-risk-assessment/

-          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

-          CLUTCH - https://www.clutchmerch.com/

-          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                

02:54 - Long Time Listener...

05:24 - Pretexting and Impersonation

10:06 - Becoming the Part

12:04 - An Actor Prepares

13:54 - Sponsor

15:18 - SE for Yourself

23:25 - Saving FASE

25:46 - Principles in Action

29:34 - Wrap Up & Outro

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-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Today we are joined by Mitchell Osmond. Mitchell is a leadership consultant, executive coach, and host of the Dad Nation Podcast, ranked in the top 5% globally with over 33,000 listeners. With 15+ years in senior leadership, Mitchell helps high-performing men find success where it matters most: at home, in their health, and in their happiness, all while strengthening their careers. [Jan 12, 2026]

 

00:00 - Intro

00:29 - Intro Links

-          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

-          Offensive Security Vishing Services - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/vishing/

-          Offensive Security SMiShing Services - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/smishing/

-          Offensive Security Phishing Services - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/smishing/

-          Call Back Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/call-back-phishing/

-          Adversarial Simulation Services - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/adversarial-simulation/

-          Social Engineering Risk Assessments - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/social-engineering-risk-assessment/

-          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

-          CLUTCH - https://www.clutchmerch.com/

-          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                

02:06 - Mitchell Osmond Intro

02:45 - The Turning Point

08:01 - The Attraction Triangle

15:48 - Driving Essence

22:49 - Ask, Don't Tell

25:04 - Mirroring/Summarizing

27:21 - The Need to Be Real

29:00 - Find Mitchell Osmond Online                      

-          Website: https://www.dadnationco.com/

-          Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dadnationco/

29:26 - The Spark Starter Kit

-          Website: https://www.dadnationco.com/spark-starter-kit

31:36 - Book Recommendations

-          The Meaning of Marriage - Timothy Keller

32:43 - Mentors

35:57 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro                                

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-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.

 

In today’s episode, Chris and Dr. Abbie explore psychopathy, focusing on its clinical definition and common misconceptions. They discuss how the term is often misapplied to various behaviors, stressing the importance of understanding its roots in empathy and fear. By highlighting the need for accurate knowledge, they aim to prevent stigmatization and promote a deeper understanding of mental health. [Jan 5, 2026]  

 

00:00 - Intro

00:24 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

00:42 - Intro Links

-          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

-          Offensive Security Vishing Services - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/vishing/

-          Offensive Security SMiShing Services - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/smishing/

-          Offensive Security Phishing Services - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/smishing/

-          Call Back Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/call-back-phishing/

-          Adversarial Simulation Services - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/adversarial-simulation/

-          Social Engineering Risk Assessments - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/social-engineering-risk-assessment/

-          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

-          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

-          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                

03:47 - The Topic of the Day: Psychopathy

04:28 - A Proper Definition

06:13 - Key Indicators

07:46 - Lack of Empathy

09:36 - The Influence of Social Media

11:51 - Evil ≠ Psychopathy

12:40 - Environment Matters

14:17 - Size Matters

16:02 - MasterClass Ad

17:28 - Work Advantage

18:46 - Gender Differences

20:54 - Big Red Flag!

26:00 - Teaching Emotional Regulation

27:27 - Label Hoarding

32:33 - It's Not Exclusive

36:04 - Wrap Up

36:58 - Next Month's Topic: Imposter Syndrome

37:23 - Outro

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-          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

 

Find us online:

-          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd

-          Instagram: @DoctorAbbieofficial

-          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

 

 

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