Mon, 17 May 2021
In this episode, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Jason Frank. Jason has an extensive background in helping both government and Fortune 100 organizations, and has served a course instructor for the Black Hat security conference. Jason is now currently the COO at SpecterOps, where he is accountable for execution of the company. He oversees the Adversary Simulation and Detection delivery capabilities, where he helps clients to understand, detect, and respond to adversaries. May 17, 2021
00:00 – Intro
03:05 – Podcast Guest Jason Frank Intro
03:22 – Jason at BlackHat
03:30 - SpecterOps
04:34 – How Jason got to where he is
08:50 – Curiousity and motivation born from failing at a CTF
09:50 – Adversary Simulation – why is Jason using this phrase?
12:32 – Where are we in the current security culture?
16:11 – How to get attention of stakeholders, what concepts do you put in play?
18:03 – Reactive vs. Proactive
21:56 – How can corporations prepare for and mitigate attacks?
23:39 – What are the business repercussions of not letting machines talk to each other, and only the server?
25:45 – What are the more recent attacks you’ve seen coming up that people should be looking for?
28:14 – Knowledge bombs – terminology that people can look up to recognize “low hanging fruit” they may be missing – Bloodhound
30:00 – Cycles where certain things can be exploited such as ActiveDirectory
30:50 – What other things do companies need to be watching for
32:14 – PowerShell
33:44 – What are some action steps that corporations should start taking right now?
34:51 – Colleagues Jason respects most in the industry
36:50 – Jason's Book Recommendations
38:31 – Wrap-Up
@joemontmania on Twitter (Ryan MacDougall)
@HumanHacker on Twitter (Chris Hadnagy)
@InnocentOrg on Twitter (Innocent Lives Foundation)
Direct download: Ep._146_-_Demand_Transparency_with_a_blue_shirt_with_Jason_Frank.mp3
Category:Security Awareness -- posted at: 8:47am EST
Mon, 10 May 2021
In this episode, Chris Hadnagy and Maxie Reynolds are joined by industry professional Jack Schafer, PhD. Dr. Schafer is a psychologist, professor, intelligence consultant, and former FBI Special Agent. Dr. Schafer spent fifteen years conducting counter-intelligence and counterterrorism investigations, and seven years as a behavioral analyst for the FBI's National Security Division's Behavioral Analysis Program. May 10, 2021
00:00 - Intro
03:32 - Introduction to Dr. Jack Schafer, PhD.
04:54 - How Jack decided to start training people in his field after retirement
07:46 - Why is rapport building important?
11:49 - How do you stop rapport from being used against you?
13:51 - Explaining “The Truth Bias”
15:37 - Rapport works across different cultures
18:15 - The basic human need to correct other people
19:28 - Integrating the knowledge of that need into work as an FBI agent - “Brian’s Loop”
23:01 - People don’t answer yes or no, they answer Yes+, No+, I Don’t Know+
23:19 - Flattery
25:13 - Roundabout vs Direct Approach
26:45 - The “right” way is the way that works for you
29:58 - The Truth “Default Mode” and breaking the baseline
33:05 - Verbal vs. Non-Verbal Cues
36:19 - Get A Commitment
37:36 - Why does getting a commitment work on humans?
39:50 - The Lip Purse
42:40 - Wrap Up
44:45 - Jack’s Mentors
46:30 - Contact Jack
47:06 - Outro
Direct download: Human_Element_Series_Podcast_-_145_Jack_Schafer_FINAL.mp3
Category:Human Element Series -- posted at: 1:00am EST